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twoshadows
08-24-2007, 03:42 PM
Hi Everyone,

It's that time of year again, when the leaves start to turn, the college starts its fall sports schedule and I go crazy trying to keep up :D . I have a question for you sports shooter types ;): I will be shooting a little football and a lot of soccer n the next 2 1/2 months, will be using two bodies and I'm thinking of going with two primes the majority of the time. Namely the 300 f/4 IS and the 135mm f/2. I like the idea of the better IQ, faster aperture and (much!) lighter weight of the 135mm over the 70-200 f/2.8. Also I generally leave the 70-200 zoom set at 135mm anyway. I imagine for soccer, where I often use a tc on the 300mm (420mm), the 135mm will be too short. Hmmm...

So what do you think? What would you do?

Barry Horn
08-24-2007, 08:46 PM
Ian, I guess what you setting up is the 135 vs the 70-200. To me the convenience of the zoom wins. I frequently shoot soccer with only a 300/2.8 and miss the close-up shots. Now I have a 2d body and will use the 70-200 on that. I also own the 135 and love it, but the zoom wins.

Football is next for me and I would still prefer the 300-zoom combo.

Barry Horn
08-24-2007, 08:52 PM
Managed this with the 300 recently.

http://www.northeastfoto.com/gallery/files/1/4/2/6/soccer2.jpg

twoshadows
08-24-2007, 11:30 PM
Nice Shot!!!!!!

convergent
08-29-2007, 08:56 AM
Ian, I use the 400 f/2.8 (usually with a TC1.4 for soccer) and will have a 70-200 on a second body on the shoulder. I would say though that I only use it for maybe about 10-20% of my shots. So, your theory on the 135 actually is worth considering since it would lighten the load on the shoulder, and be easier to manage a quick shot while holding the monopod and the big tele. You have to use 2 hands with the 70-200, but I would guess that in a pinch you could grab a shot with just one hand with the 135. I'll have to try it.

JayVig
08-29-2007, 09:44 AM
I'm not a sports shooter but I'll weigh in on the topic anyway from what I've read here. It seems like having the versatility of zoom comes in handy but not often enough to sacrifice the IQ you get from the prime. And like mike said, the 135mm can get the closeups for those 10%-20% of the shots and is light enough to haul it around and grab it quickly.

twoshadows
08-29-2007, 01:28 PM
Ian, I use the 400 f/2.8 (usually with a TC1.4 for soccer) and will have a 70-200 on a second body on the shoulder. I would say though that I only use it for maybe about 10-20% of my shots. So, your theory on the 135 actually is worth considering since it would lighten the load on the shoulder, and be easier to manage a quick shot while holding the monopod and the big tele. You have to use 2 hands with the 70-200, but I would guess that in a pinch you could grab a shot with just one hand with the 135. I'll have to try it.

Yeah, Mike, you've expressed the idea behind my two primes thinking quite aptly. I think, especially regarding soccer, the 135L (on a 20D) would work great in terms of angle of view (216mm) while the 300 f/4 with 1.4tc on a 1DmkIIn would yield an equivalent angle of view of 527mm. I also have no problems pocketing the 70-200 and taking it out for use on the second body around the goal mouth when I want the 70mm end. In the end, I believe I'll be carrying two bodies and three lenses and using them in different combinations.

Oh, and when I posted this on another site (whose name I will not mention), I was told to "lift weights". :doh

twoshadows
09-01-2007, 12:05 AM
Well, I shot with the 300 f/4 IS + 1.4xTC on a monopod and I tried both the 135L and the 70-200 f/2.8 over the shoulder. In the end the 70-200 was MUCH better and didn't feel noticeably heavier. So that's what I'll be using.

jerry@molaver.org
09-06-2007, 05:02 PM
I have done a fair amount of on field shooting so for what it's worth. . . I would definately go for the 70-200 as the close-up complement for your long prime. I have to admit that I 'cheat' at this tho. I have my long lense mounted on a Wimberley so holding second body isn't difficult at all :)

The downside of the short fixed focal length lens is the very real chance of missing the shot. Let's face it, the action is usually fast & furious when its close in no matter if its lacrosse, soccer or football. Nothing gets me more po'ed than being at the right place at the right time with the wrong lens!

btw Barry xclnt shot!