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Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:08 AM
Canon PowerShot Pro1 Review

Phil Askey, April 2004
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(http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/frontview.jpg)Review based on a production PowerShot Pro1, Firmware v1.00


Just when we had hoped that manufacturers were moving on from the megapixel race we caught news of Sony's ICX456 eight megapixel CCD sensor which was leaked onto the Internet (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03061101sonyicx456.asp) in June last year. And so at that time it wasn't difficult to predict that we would see a rash of eight megapixel digital cameras just in time for PMA 2004. Sony were first to market with their DSC-F828 which utilized a unique version of this 2/3" Type chip which instead of an RGBG color filter array had an all new RGBE color filter array (more info here (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0307/03071601sonyrgbeccd.asp)). As predicted we each of the remaining 'big five' manufacturers introduce their eight megapixel digital camera at PMA; Canon PowerShot Pro1, Nikon Coolpix 8700, Olympus C-8080 Wide Zoom, Konica Minolta DiMAGE A2.
Canon's offering is the eight megapixel, seven times optical zoom PowerShot Pro1. A camera which appears to bridge between what some would like to call the 'G8' (an eight megapixel G series camera) and a follow-on to the Pro70, Pro90 IS series. Canon's lens design is also interesting, the same seven times optical range as we first saw in Minolta's DiMAGE 7 (and subsequently the 7i, 7Hi, A1 and now A2).
An "L-series" lens

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Just as Sony did with the F828 Canon are ensuring that they make a quality statement about this camera's lens. Not surprising when you consider that the pixel pitch (the distance between the center of each pixel location) of this 2/3" Type eight megapixel sensor is just 2.7 µm (about the same as the 1/1.8" Type five megapixel sensor used in some compact digital cameras). And the fact that it has an 'ambitious' (by compact digital camera standards) 28 to 200 mm equiv. zoom range.
This is the first time Canon have designated a digital camera lens with the "L-series" label, normally reserved for professional quality SLR lenses. Apparently this lens can carry this mark because it has a combination of both UD (ultra-low dispersion) and fluorite lens elements. I am sure that the 'L' mark will make many people ooh and ahh, however the proof of the pudding, as they say, will be in the image samples, lots of people got equally excited and later disappointed by the Carl Zeiss T* lens on the Sony DSC-F828.
Despite having a large ring around the lens barrel the zoom on the Pro1 is still 'zoom by wire' (electrically driven) rather than the preferred mechanically linked setup as seen on the Minolta DiMAGE 7x, A1 and Sony DSC-F828. However Canon are at least driving the zoom mechanism with a USM (ultrasonic motor) which provides both multiple speed and relatively quiet operation.
The lens, while perhaps not as fast as the Sony lens does have a very respectable maximum aperture of F2.4 at wide angle and F3.5 at telephoto. This should provide the AF system plenty of light for quick focusing as well as the exposure system / photographer plenty of opportunity to 'stop down' the lens (use a smaller aperture) for optimum sharpness.

Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:09 AM
Canon PowerShot Pro1 specificationshttp://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/specsview.jpg
PriceUS: $999
EU: €1199Body MaterialMagnesium alloy / PlasticSensor• 8.3 megapixel (total) CCD
• 8.0 million effective pixels
• 2/3" Type (click here (http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Camera_System/Sensor_Sizes_01.htm))
• RGB Color Filter ArrayImage processorDIGIC with iSAPSImage sizes• 3264 x 2448
• 2272 x 1704
• 1600 x 1200
• 1024 x 768
• 640 x 480Movie clips• 640 x 480, 15 fps, max 30 sec
• 320 x 240, 15 fps, max 3 mins
• 160 x 120, 15 fps, max 3 mins
• With audioImage formats• RAW
• JPEG (EXIF 2.2) - Super Fine, Fine, Normal *
* Any image shot as JPEG can be instead saved
as RAW by pressing FUNC during record reviewLens• 7x optical zoom "L-series"
• 28 - 200 mm equiv.
• 40 steps from wide to telephoto
• F2.4 - F3.5
• 14 elements in 10 groups, 1 fluorite, 1 UD glass, 2 aspherical elements
• USM (ultrasonic motor) zoom, multi-speed
• Bayonet fitting for optional add-on lenses / hoodDigital zoomYes, smooth up to 3.2xFocusing• Hybrid (TTL and external passive AF)
• Center Area AF
• FlexiZone AF/AE area selection
• Single / Continuous AF
• Manual focus
• Focus bracketing
• 3 cm minimum focus range (super macro mode)AF Assist lampNoShooting mode• Auto
• Program AE
• Shutter priority AE
• Aperture priority AE
• Manual
• Custom 1
• Custom 2
• Portrait
• Landscape
• Night Scene
• Stitch Assist
• MovieMetering• Evaluative
• Center-weighted average
• Spot (center or AF area)Sensitivity• Auto
• ISO 50
• ISO 100
• ISO 200
• ISO 400Shutter speed• Program AE/Aperture Priority: 1.3 - 1/4000 sec
• Shutter priority/Manual: 15 - 1/4000 sec
• Automatic noise reduction for exposures of 1.3 sec or slowerShutter priority15, 13, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3.2, 2.5, 2, 1.6, 1.3, 1, 0.8, 0.6, 0.5, 0.4, 0.3, 1/4, 1/5, 1/6, 1/8, 1/10, 1/13, 1/15, 1/20, 1/25, 1/30, 1/40, 1/50, 1/60, 1/80, 1/100, 1/125, 1/160, 1/200, 1/250, 1/320, 1/400, 1/500, 1/640, 1/800, 1/1000, 1/1250, 1/1600, 1/2000, 1/2500, 1/3200, 1/4000
* See limitations belowShutter speed max limitations• Wide, F2.4 - F2.8: 1/1600 s, F3.2 - F5.0: 1/2000 s, F5.6 - F8.0: 1/4000 s
• Tele, F3.5 - F4.0: 1/1600 s, F4.5 - F7.1: 1/2000 s, F8.0: 1/4000 s Aperture priority• Wide: F2.4, F2.8, F3.2, F3.5, F4.0, F4.5, F5.0, F5.6, F6.3, F7.1, F8.0
• Tele: F3.5, F4.0, F4.5, F5.0, F5.6, F6.3, F7.1, F8.0Manual exposure• Any combination of shutter speed and aperture above
• No Bulb modeAE LockYes, button on rear of cameraExposure compen.-2 EV to +2 EV in 1/3EV steps Exposure bracketing• 3 images
• +/- 0.3, 0.7, 1.0, 1.3, 1.7, 2.0 EVND Filter• Can be switched into image path via rec menu
• Approx 1/8 decrease in brightness (3 stops)White Balance• Auto
• Daylight
• Cloudy
• Tungsten
• Fluorescent
• Fluorescent H
• Flash
• Custom (2 memories)WB fine tuneNoColor space• sRGB
• Adobe RGBPhoto Effects• Vivid
• Neutral
• Low Sharpening
• Sepia
• Black & White
• CustomImage parameters• Contrast: -, 0, +
• Sharpness: -, 0, +
• Saturation: -, 0, +Continuous• (Low speed) 1.0 fps, up to 18 frames
• (High speed) 2.5 fps, up to 6 framesTimelapse• Interval: 1 - 60 mins
• Shots: up to 100Flash• Built-in, pop-up (electronic)
• Auto, Manual on/off
• Red-eye reduction: on/off
• Slow sync: on/off
• Range (ISO 100): W 0.5 - 5.0 m (1.6 - 16.4 ft), T 1.0 - 3.5 m (3.3 - 11.5 ft)
• Compensation: +/- 2.0 EV in 0.3 EV stepsFlash X-Sync1/250 sec max.External flash Hot-shoe (E-TTL with EX series Speedlites, wireless multi-flash support)Tripod mountYes, metalSelf-timer2 or 10 sec delayRemote control Yes, optional wireless (WL-DC100)Remote capturePC control via USBVideo outYes, selectable NTSC / PAL Storage• Compact Flash Type I or Type II (Slot 2)
• IBM Microdrive supported
• FAT32 supported (cards >2 GB)Storage included64 MB Compact Flash cardViewfinder• Electronic Viewfinder
• 235,000 pixels
• 100% coverage
• Dioptre adjustment (-5.5 to 1.1 dpt)LCD• 2.0" TFT, 235,000 pixels
• 100% coverage
• Tilt, twist and swivel ('Vari-angle')Histogram display• Record review
• PlaybackDirect print• Canon Compact Photo Printers and Bubble Jet Printers with direct print
• PictBridge compatible printersOther features• Sound memo (up to 60 sec)
• Histogram
• Orientation sensor
• Playback zoom 2x - 10xConnectivity• USB 1.1
• A/V out
• DC-INPower• Canon BP-511A Lithium-Ion rechargeable battery
• Charger included
• (Optionally BP-514 / BP-512 / BP-511 / CA-560 AC adapter)Weight (no batt) 545 g (1.2 lb)Weight (inc. batt)640 g (1.4 lb)Dimensions118 x 72 x 90 mm (4.6 x 2.8 x 3.5 in)

Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:11 AM
Designhttp://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/allroundview-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/allroundview.jpg)Although thicker the Pro1 is actually no larger front on than the PowerShot G5. Styling wise Canon appear to have tried to move away from the 'brick' shape with a more rounded hand grip and slanted surfaces. Also noteworthy is the extensive use of the almost trademark shiny round buttons which are easily recognizable from Canon's range of EOS film and digital cameras. The new larger lens actually provides a more balanced appearance to the camera, the red L-type ring is very dominant and shows Canon's clear intent to push the camera's Pro appeal.
At the back some simple molding assists thumb grip and the control layout is straightforward with all buttons at close hand. The large two inch flip out and twist LCD monitor occupies the rest of the rear of the camera. Overall build quality is very good and the camera feels solid, although interestingly having the Olympus C-8080 Wide Zoom on hand demonstrated to me that it's still possible to go further still, it feels even more robust.
Side by side

Below you can see the Pro1 beside the current eight megapixel competition, it comes in as a middleweight, the lightest camera being Nikon's Coolpix 8700, the heaviest the Sony DSC-F828. From a size point of view you can see that the Pro1 and Coolpix 8700 are fairly similar in size, the C-8080 Wide Zoom and DSC-F828 markedly larger.
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The Pro1's fairly large hand grip makes it comfortable to hold (certainly better than the G3/G5 in this respect), the simple molding on the rear of the camera a natural location for your thumb. The lens barrel makes a natural support position for your left hand. Weight balance feels approximately fifty/fifty with the lens on the left side (from the rear) and the battery on the right.
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Display Panel

On the top of the camera is the LCD Display Panel which provides a fairly wide range of information on current camera settings and exposure. It may not come as a huge surprise to find out that this display panel is actually identical to that found on the PowerShot G3/G5. The primary difference being the addition of a red backlight which can be switched on with a press of the backlight button.
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Diagram reproduced with permission from PowerShot Pro1 manual.

Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:12 AM
LCD MonitorContinuing a tradition Canon started with the Pro70 the Pro1 has a flip-out and twist LCD monitor which can be folded away when not in use (protecting the screen) or can be flipped out from the body, twisted through 180 degrees and folded back onto the body just like any other digital camera.
This is the largest flip-out and twist screen Canon has used to date, it's two inches diagonally and has 235,000 pixels. In use it proved to be detailed and bright, thanks to an anti-reflective coating the screen remains useful even in bright outdoor conditions. The flip-out and twist design of the LCD is perfect for the studio, out in the field, for protecting the LCD when it's not in use, taking waist level shots, overhead shots, self portraits etc. The LCD provides 100% frame coverage in live view mode.
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Electronic Viewfinder

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/viewfinder.jpgCanon's first use of an Electronic Viewfinder since the Pro90 and it's mostly good news, they have implemented the excellent 0.44" 235,000 LCD seen in other recent digital cameras such as the Fujifilm S7000 (and S20 Pro). It provides a high resolution live view which is identical to the feed provided on the LCD display. Fold the LCD against the camera body (first image above) and the EVF is on by default, with the LCD open simply press the display button beside the EVF to switch between the LCD and EVF.
Unfortunately just like most EVF implementations (except Minolta's) the EVF works less well in very low light situations.
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Battery / Compact Flash Compartment

The Pro1 has a dual battery and storage compartment mounted horizontally in the side of the hand grip. To open slide the compartment door to towards the rear of the camera and flip it open (the metal hinge springs on its own past approximately 45 degrees). Inside is first the battery slot (for Canon BP-511A / BP-511 / BP-512 / BP-514) and a Type II Compact Flash slot. The battery is held in place by small clip latch. The Pro1 is compatible with Type I and Type II Compact Flash cards including the IBM/Hitachi Microdrive as well as cards with a capacity greater than 2 GB (which require FAT32 format).
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Battery / Charger

The Pro1 is supplied with a new updated version of the BP-511 Lithium-Ion rechargeable battery. The new BP-511A has a capacity of 1390 mAh at 7.4 V (10.2 Wh) versus the older BP-511 which provides 1100 mAh at 7.4 V (8.1 Wh). Unlike the G3/G5 which charge their battery in-camera the Pro1 is instead supplied with the CB-5L (or CG-580) external battery charger which takes around 90 minutes to fully charge a completely flat battery.
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Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:14 AM
ConnectionsAll of the camera's connectors are arranged in a neat row at the bottom rear of the camera beside the LCD monitor, they are covered by a neat hinged plastic door (Kudos for this). In order the connectors are: USB (1.1), DC-IN (for optional AC adapter) and A/V out.
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Lens

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/lensmeasure-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/lensmeasure.jpg)One of the biggest items of news surrounding the Pro1 must be the fact that this is the first Canon digital camera to have its lens labeled as an "L-series", the designation normally reserved for Canon's line of professional SLR lenses. Canon has chosen to use this designation to indicate that quality of the lens and that it uses a combination of UD (ultra-low dispersion) and fluorite lens elements. In addition the lens also uses an Ultrasonic motor for zoom. In my opinion it's a pity that Canon didn't implement a mechanically linked zoom.
The Pro1 can take a range of add-on lenses, these attach to a bayonet mount which is revealed by removing the small ring at the front of the body of the lens barrel (you must hold a button just to the left of the barrel to remove). Included with the Pro1 is the FA-DC58A filter adapter which provides a 58 mm thread (for filters only) and the LH-DC10 lens hood.
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Base / Tripod Mount

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/base-001.jpg (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/base.jpg)On the base of the camera is a metal tripod mount, although for some reason it's not in line with the lens (I've no idea why because there appears to be plenty of 'real estate' available for it). Secondly the raised 'foot' platform around the mount is strangely small. It would have been nice to see a large rubber foot around the tripod mount.


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Remote Control

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Supplied with the camera is this handy Infrared remote control, with a 5 m range it can be used to remotely fire the shutter release, control the zoom and other menu options or as a control for playback (say of a slideshow on a TV screen) with thumbnail, zoom and DISPLAY buttons also available. Kudos for making this a standard accessory.
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Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:15 AM
Pop-up FlashThe Pro1 has an electronically released pop-up flash, it has a quoted range of 0.5 - 5.0 m (1.6 - 16.4 ft) at wide angle and 1.0 - 3.5 m (3.3 - 11.5 ft) at telephoto. In Auto exposure mode the flash pop's up when required (auto flash), in the other exposure modes you can choose from having the flash pop-up when required or pop-up only when the flash button is pressed. Note that the small lamp set below the flash unit is the red-eye reduction lamp which shines a bright white light while you hold the shutter release button when red-eye reduction is enabled.
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Flash Hot-shoe

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/hotshoe.jpgThe Pro1 has a fully wired E-TTL hot-shoe mounted on the top of the camera. This allows for full compatibility with a range of Canon Speedlite: 220EX, 380EX, 420EX, 550EX, MR-14EX / MT-24EX Macro Lite and also non-TTL use of other flash / studio systems.
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AF Sensor

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/afexternal.jpgThe Pro1 has a hybrid auto focus system, it combines information from an external AF sensor mounted to the upper left of the lens barrel with normal TTL video AF detected by the CCD. In low light situations the external sensor is relied on even more, the Pro1 does not have a visible light AF assist lamp.


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Supplied In the Box

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/CanonPro1/Images/box.jpgThe contents of the retail box are:
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• Canon PowerShot Pro1 Digital Camera
• BP-511A Lithium-Ion battery
• CB-5L (or CG-580) battery charger
• 64 MB CompactFlash card
• WL-D100 IR Remote Control
• Lens cap, hood, filter adapter
• Shoulder strap
• USB & AV cable
• Canon Solutions CD-ROM
• User Manual
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Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Conclusion - Pros

Very good resolution, joint best of group
Wide angle seven times zoom lens, fast at wide
Selectable color space (sRGB / Adobe RGB)
Good shot to shot times
Good flash performance
Time-lapse feature
Relatively compact and lightweight
Good ergonomics, decent hand grip, zoom ring
Wide range of accessories available
Some unique features (ND filter etc.)
Clean image, quality image processing thanks to DiGiC
Large 2.0" Tilt & Twist LCD monitor, 235,000 pixels
High resolution electronic viewfinder
Supplied IR remote control
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Conclusion - Cons



Vignetting / lens shading at maximum aperture
Visible noise from ISO 100 upwards
Slower than expected startup time
Limited latitude of image parameter adjustment
No AF assist lamp
No live view histogram
Lower than advertised continuous shooting speed
Long CF write times for Super-Fine images (4.8 sec)
Disappointing battery life - camera bug?
Poor automatic white balance in artificial light
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Overall conclusion

The PowerShot Pro1 is a camera designed to be familiar to current Canon owners, easy enough to use for first time buyers and yet still provide a semiprofessional feel and feature set. Canon has borrowed from its professional lens line to put an L quality label on the lens system to indicate that this is a new lens and it has been designed to fulfill the high resolution requirements of an eight megapixel CCD. In use the Canon felt slightly slower than I was expecting, certainly not much faster than the G5 and I didn't see any marked improvement in speed overall from that camera.
Overall image quality was good, that L lens proving it can deliver the resolution and that Canon's reliable DiGiC image processor can turn out a quality image with good tonal and color balance and no noticeable artifacts. We had two areas of disappointment from an image quality stance, firstly the lens exhibited noticeable lens shading especially at wide angle and/or maximum aperture, secondly noise levels were high enough to be seen at ISO 100 and progressively worse at higher sensitivities. This is clearly a trait of the eight megapixel sensor and while we commend Canon for taking a 'purist' approach to image processing these levels of noise really should have been tamed with an (optional?) noise reduction feature.
The Pro1 left me feeling neither hot nor cold, the camera delivered as much resolution as we had expected with on the whole good image quality but didn't really perform as we would hope 'across the board'. I didn't see any major improvements in performance and 'usage feel' and was left slightly disappointed by noise levels at higher sensitivities and the potential lens shading. That said there's little doubt that the Pro1 can deliver great images when used carefully and should certainly be in the top three on your shopping list if you're considering an eight megapixel prosumer digital camera.

Recommended
Detail Rating (out of 10)
Construction8.5
Features8
Image quality8.5
Lens / CCD combination8
Ease of use8.5
Value for money7.5

('Recommended' is our second highest rating, a camera has to be good to get this far!)

Digital SLR footnote: If you're considering an eight megapixel prosumer digital camera you should also not rule out a sub-$1000 digital SLR while initially more expensive (certainly if you want to achieve the 28 - 200 mm zoom range) these cameras offer higher quality image processing, cleaner images (virtually noise free up to ISO 1600), faster performance, more flexibility and for all intents and purposes (even large prints) as much resolution. On the downside they're not an 'all in one' solution and they're likely to be larger and need you to buy and carry at least a second lens. By sub-$1000 (at the time of publication of this review) we're talking about the Nikon D70 (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond70/) and Canon EOS 300D (Digital Rebel) (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/).

ZR2Blazer
01-20-2006, 10:35 AM
Looks like a nice little "all in one" solution, but I would rather stick to what we have now.....not much trouble to switch lenses to get that perfect pic :dunno

Just my .02 though :cheers

Orgnoi1
01-20-2006, 10:40 AM
Yeah... this isnt the solution for everyone... but I am at a point where really it isnt realistic to be able to take my 1D and all the lenses on the Goldwing if I go somewhere... I got mine for a REALLY cheap price... half of suggested retail... so it was hard to pass up... and now I am not carrying a 46lb backpack around every day...LOL

ProPhotoImages
06-03-2006, 08:16 PM
After perusing all the cons and pros, this is one compact flash I can use as an extra on short excursions when I don't want to lug a lot of equipment around. I feel that a user can get around most of the cons by say using "Noise Ninja for higher ISO's...doing your own custom white balancing...using lexar 133x 2gb flash cards and one tip is to use the 511A battery but after it finishes charging let it sit for about 30-45 minutes more in the charger before you pull it out. I can get by without AF assist too. I assume that this body won't take the 580 Canon flash but will take the 550 flash. USB1.1 I don't care about cause I don't hook my bodies directly up to a computer system. I always use readers and you should too. I guess I can also live with the histogram with this body. Just happened to think I have a 380 flash I was going to get rid of but should probally keep:pound

Now, the question is..where can I get one cheap? Say $600.00 or so. I am in the market now.

Anyone want to let me in on this?

Orgnoi1
06-04-2006, 07:07 PM
Actually the Pro-1 will shoot fine with the 580ex... I have tested mine out a few times to see how it would work... you can find the Pro-1 sometimes in some of the stores used... but if you google "Canon Pro-1 Forum" you can find the Pro-1's forum online and a bunch of people sell them there... :thumb and usually for around $450ish

aceman152
06-04-2006, 07:13 PM
Yeah... this isnt the solution for everyone... but I am at a point where really it isnt realistic to be able to take my 1D and all the lenses on the Goldwing if I go somewhere... I got mine for a REALLY cheap price... half of suggested retail... so it was hard to pass up... and now I am not carrying a 46lb backpack around every day...LOL


Picked that up for $5-600.....I was pricing those things...good find!!

ZK9995
06-04-2006, 07:58 PM
That is a really cool camera :thumb Seeing we don't travel by bike we are able to bring our 300D and if were are just out wandering we always try to have one of our point and shoots with us just incase we see something we want to take a picture of:) But I could see where this would be great for traveling by Bike.